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作者: uncleura    时间: 2022-2-3 19:16     标题: JEDEC vectors

The TL866II + device contains the necessary tools to program the GAL/PAL chips. I know that after programming the GAL/PAL, the chip must be checked for compliance with its functionality. The JEDEC file used to program the GAL/PAL may contain in addition to the fuses list also a list of vectors to check the programmed chip. The format of the JEDEC file is well described, and the sections of verification vectors are described too.
In the XGPro V.11.81 program, there is a digital logic IC testing mode. You can create your own template for checking arbitrary devices. I tried to do this using the built-in toolkit. To check the GAL/PAL chip a large number of vectors required, and enter all of them through the proposed input interface seems not very productively. Is it possible to add to the XGPRO program the import of verification vectors from the JEDEC file? It would be very convenient, given that these vectors can be more than 100 pieces for one device. Agree, to create hundreds of vectors using an interface built into XGPRO.11.81, it will be necessary to click on "Pins Vector Set" drop-down lists from 1 hour of working time (the most optimistic forecast - a pair of seconds for one pin with the number of pins of 18). And this is without checking the entire table, and errors when transferring such a big bunch of data manually is highly possible.
Perhaps I missed some utility to convert a JEDEC or other text file with check vectors in the * .lgc format?
And more: in the description "T56_TL8666II User Guide.pdf" I could not found some information about time period during which the logical chip testing begins after power supply is on. To test the GAL containing the triggers after programming, this time is extremely important, since for some time after the power-on device is presetting these triggers in the initial state. In my case (GAL16V8D) it's 1us. It is not clear why, but when testing in TL866II +, some triggers are not reset before the start of the test. What happens before the start of the test - I don't know, maybe the pins of the chip are checked on the possible short to gnd, etc., and at this moment the initial state of the triggers can change. The point here is definitely not in my chip, as when checking manually (I have a device with old good togglers and LEDs) I can swear that all the triggers are reset when the power is suppressed as it should.
作者: admin    时间: 2022-2-8 15:38

回复 1# uncleura

JEDEC does not seem to generate a logic test vector table
作者: uncleura    时间: 2022-5-15 03:52

The JEDEC standard definitely has support for vectors to test the generated device. See, for example, page 1 (Introduction) at www.pldtool.com/pdf/jesd3c_jedecfmt.pdf. Programs that create JEDEC files, for example, for GAL/PAL, in addition to fuses, put check vectors in this file. File has simple and good documented format. Here is a part of JEDEC file generated with program WINCUPL:

*L01824 11111011111111111111111111111111
*L02048 01011111001100000011000000100000
*L02112 00000000010010111111111111111111
*L02144 11111111111111111111111111111111
*L02176 111111111111111101
*C8717
*P 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
*V0001 000101001N0HLHHHHHHN
*V0002 000001XXXN1HLZXZZXZN
*V0003 010111XXXN0HLHXHHXHN
*V0004 001111XXXN0LLHXHHXHN
*V0005 011111XXXN0LLHXHHXHN
*V0006 000111XXXN0HHHXHHXHN
*V0007 010111XXXN0HLHXHHXHN

Lines next to *P 1 2 3 .... are nothing but vectors to check target device after programming fuses.
V0001 means vector number 1
0 means logic 0 on input
1   means logic 1 on input
X means "not tested"
N means "power pin" (not tested)
H test that output is high
etc.

full list you can find on page 14 of document mentioned above.
作者: PCB.Wiz    时间: 2023-8-25 04:55

Just checking in for progress update on reading the auto-appended vectors on a PLD JED file? Attached is WinCUPL JED file for ATF16V8 that has appended test vectors, these should be run after programming.
Also, this support should also a vector command 'K' the complement of 'C', as WinCUPL can support C and K

C = _____/==\______  Positive Clock pulse
K = ====\__/=====  Negative Clock pulse

Added JED files for ATF16v8 / ATF22V10 /  ATF750C  with vectors.

附件: WinCUPL_ATF16V8_ATF22V10_ATF750_JED_Vectors.zip (2023-8-28 05:45, 8.37 KB) / 下载次数 5894
http://forums.xgecu.com/attachment.php?aid=1975&k=0d3fe17dc6f4090f66ff480875468451&t=1732280726&sid=0Lgn91
作者: jmg    时间: 2023-10-31 09:40

Any updates on JED vector support?
One interim idea, would be to at least allow a clipboard paste into the Edit Logic Vector pane.  




ie That's just adding a single new button   [paste vectors from clipboard]

Addit: A [copy vectors to clipboard] button would allow easier user patching of existing test vectors, which are not always 100%

This would accept multiple lines from the clipboard and fill-out the form automatically.
( It should be capable of up to 10,000 lines.)

Users can column edit and copy from a JED file quite easily.



example from a clipboard (note K ==\_/=== is possible, it is an inverted C ___/=\___, as above)

01111111001G1HXLLLHXXXXV
C1111111001G1HXLLLHXXXXV
C1K11111101G1HXLLLHXXXXV
C1K11111101G1HXLLLHXXXXV
C1K11111101G0HXLHLHXXXXV
C1K11111101G0LXLHHLXXXXV
C1111111101G0LXLHHLXXXXV
C1111111101G1HXLLLHXXXXV(display wraps strangely)




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