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作者: krz1    时间: 2021-4-18 04:49     标题: TY00D0021211KC NAND

你好,

我有兴趣从贵司购买TL866 II Plus或者XGecu T56编程器。

我需要读取一枚东芝TY00D0021211KC NAND闪存芯片的内容。该芯片使用BGA149封装,是<1GB(?) 16位的SDR NAND。我未能找到该芯片的完整规格书,仅有引脚图。

根据贵司网站上所列支持的NAND芯片列表,该芯片并未支持。然而如果存在与此相似的芯片在支持列表中的话,请问贵司的软件是否支持手动配置访问参数?

综上所述,请问我应购买哪一款编程器,能够支持该东芝芯片?

非常感谢。

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Hello,

I am considering purchasing the TL866 II Plus or XGecu T56 programmer.

I need to read out a Toshiba TY00D0021211KC NAND flash chip, which is in a  BGA149 package, and is a <1 GByte (?) 16-bit sdr nand. I could not find a full datasheet for it, I only have a pinout map.

According to the list of supported NAND chips on your web-site, this chip is currently unsupported. However, in the case where a similar configuration of the chip is supported, does your software allow to manually configure the access parameters?

Which programmer should I purchase in order to get support for this NAND chip?

Regards.
作者: admin    时间: 2021-4-18 08:59

回复 1# krz1
T56 Programmer
you can DIY a adapter BGA149 to DIP48.
ZIF48 pins is assigned as ONFI standard(16 bits NAND):
All VCC and VCCQ connected together.
All Vss and VssQ connected together.

TSOP48.jpg
2021-4-18 08:55


then set NAND parameters by the chip's data sheet.Please refer to the T56 user guide  section 10.3

Param.jpg
2021-4-18 08:57


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图片附件: Param.jpg (2021-4-18 08:57, 45.37 KB) / 下载次数 1388
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作者: krz1    时间: 2021-4-18 23:00

Thank you.

Can I get the pinout of the t56 socket? I would like to have the less moving parts possible between my chip and the programmer.

Regards.
作者: STALKER_71    时间: 2021-4-18 23:30

Pinout same as in up screen.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-4-19 03:15

Can this be done with TL866 II Plus as well ? I saw that there is support for 16 bit chips for this programmer with an adapter.
作者: admin    时间: 2021-4-21 11:20

回复 5# krz1

TL866II not support 16 bits and multiple CE/RBn pins
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-5-26 23:38

Following your advice I have ordered a T56 programmer.

Also I have ordered an ADP-SSO-056-0.8 adapter (the only one TSOP48 I could get with a soldering place) and have made soldered the pins from NAND to adapter according to the following diagram which I have drafted based on the pinout of that adapter.



Now, how would I rearrange the pinout of the programmer in XGpro accordingly?

Thank you.
作者: admin    时间: 2021-5-27 10:02

回复 7# krz1


  you unable to rearrange the pinout of the programmer. you only DIY a special adapter for your IC
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-5-27 19:41

Ok, so I need to rearrange the pins on the PCB according to the tsop48 pinout above.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-5-29 02:00

I have rewired my chip to the adapter.

However, the pinout I am using does not provide WP# pin.
How can I find it?

Currently I am getting Bad pins:

Bad Pin On ZIF :19
Bad Pin On ZIF :25
Bad Pin On ZIF :36
Bad Pin On ZIF :37
Bad Pin On ZIF :39
Bad Pin On ZIF :48

One is ZIF19 is WP#.

I have connected one of the Vcc of my chip to PIN12, and the other Vcc of my chip to PIN34.

Other pins are effectively not connected to my chip. Do I need to connect all the VCC\VCCQ between them on the PCB, and all the VSS/VSSQ pins between them on the PCB ? Do I need to wire all the ground pins to the chip as well?

Also I have only one CE#, and only one RY/BY.
作者: admin    时间: 2021-5-29 14:40

回复 10# krz1
what's the Pinout of your IC?
VCC/VCCQ to ZIF12 and ZIF37
VSS/VSSQ to ZIF13 and ZIF36

Connect all VCC/VCCQ on PCB  
Connect all VSS/VSSQ on PCB

set
disable Pin Detect.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-5-29 15:29

Thank you!

This is the pinout I have.

I will reconnect VCC and VCCQ as per your instructions. My chip has VCC1 and VCC2 though, but both of them seem to be 1,8V.
And interconnect the vcc-s\vccqs on the board as well as vss\vssq-s.

I think my chip might use the same pinout as this BGA149 chip from ST (see attached), I will try the WP pin from this pinout.

图片附件: st_pinout.png (2021-5-29 15:29, 191.22 KB) / 下载次数 1442
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图片附件: Pinout TY0D1211.jpg (2021-5-29 15:49, 779.72 KB) / 下载次数 1706
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作者: krz1    时间: 2021-5-31 04:38

Is the WP# pin mandatory for operation?
作者: admin    时间: 2021-5-31 09:23

回复 13# krz1
Yes,
WP is a write protection Pins. must be connected.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-5-31 13:10

Am I supposed to read any data if WP is unconnected? Currently I am getting "00"s including while reading ID.
作者: admin    时间: 2021-6-1 09:19

回复 15# krz1

ALL VSSF  to GND
all  VDDF  to VCC 1.8V

select a chip model with VCC=1.8V  ,  16bits  TSOP48
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-6-1 20:41

>>> ALL VSSF  to GND

Even if all the Vss are interconnected on the chip?

I note that the first image (st) is not from my chip which was made by Toshiba, but from a chip that has a similar pinout made by ST. Also the ST chip is an MCP, while mine is not. The second diagram is for my chip. The second diagram does not have WP. There is no continuity or resistance on the supposedly WP pin on my chip.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-6-1 20:43

>> select a chip model with VCC=1.8V

I have tried to connect one time with VCC set to 3.0V. It did not allow me to connect because it did not find several pins.
Still, I am worried whether I could have damaged the chip.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-7-16 21:48

I have tested all the NC pins with multimeter against ground (one of the Vss pins) and still cannot find the #WP pin.
Maybe it has its own Vss which is not common to all the chip?
Is there some trick? Or maybe I should put a capacitor somewhere?

Currently the chip reads only zeros.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-8-11 05:52

@admin:

May I send the chip to you for you to try to figure it out?

Regards
作者: admin    时间: 2021-8-11 07:21

回复 20# krz1

1.There must be an adapter.(or a PCB to test)

2. we can not be able to guarantee  the test,  because no the correct data sheet.
作者: krz1    时间: 2021-8-11 10:30

1. I will add an adapter to which the chip is soldered.
I will still make a couple more tries.

2. Yes I understand.




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