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vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 09:32

AM27C010, AM29F010B, SST39SF010A not programing correctly

Hello,
I have the TL866II plus and the T48, 2 PLCC32 to DIP32 adapters, I can't program any of my brand new devices AM27C010,  AM29F010B or SST39SF010A, the programmers sometimes write part of the devices but most commonly error is at address 800, I already damaged many 27c010 because they are one time programmable, I tried 4 different computers, windows xp, 10 or 11, 32 or 64 bits, why I'm having issues if they are in the supported list? I bought the devices from the distributors, no clones. Please help.

Best regards, vijo
Ps: they read fine and the ID also is fine

vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 10:08

[quote]Hello,
I have the TL866II plus and the T48, 2 PLCC32 to DIP32 adapters, I can't program any of my b ...
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Also I noticed the 27c010 on the software  have 2 versions, DIP32 and PLCC32, the 27c010 only comes in DIP28 or PLCC32, so I suspect there is something wrong with the pin configuration. Or maybe I need a PLCC32 to DIP28 adapter instead the PLCC32 to DIP32?

Albano.Matos 发表于 2022-8-18 11:38

[quote]Also I noticed the 27c010 on the software  have 2 versions, DIP32 and PLCC32, the 27c010 only come ...
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   As a user:       The 'trick' to use the PLCC32 --> DIP28, is that you need to select the DIP version in the software ( if you already have one of those adapters available), seems not correct with this IC, as Admin warn, as is DIP Version is 32pin, not28pin :-(
Maybe faulty IC batch , or faulty adapter ( try pin to pin test with meter )
Recommend you buy ZIF adapter like this one [url=https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32998603835.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allProduct.8148356.5.40b06fdbAnJo2Z&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21US%20%2426.44%21US%20%2418.32%21US%20%2424.32%21%21%21%21%402100bb5116607960118258877eeb6a%2166989272915%21sh]Adp-062 Plcc32-dip32 Zif Adapter/ Adaptor/ Ic Socket Yamaichi For Tl866a Tl866cs Tl866ii Plus Or Other Universal Programmers - Calculators - AliExpress[/url]

Hope it helps

admin 发表于 2022-8-18 11:48

[b]回复 [url=http://forums.xgecu.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2232&ptid=724]2#[/url] [i]vijovijo[/i] [/b]

1. 27C010 is not DIP28!  only 32PIns IC

address 800   error ------> A11 pin is bad  of your adapter

2. It should  your PLCC32 adapter is bad.
   PLCC32  shuld to DIP32  , not to DIP28

3, I tested TL866II and T48, all is normal!

T48
[attach]1392[/attach]
[attach]1395[/attach]

TL866II
[attach]1393[/attach]
[attach]1394[/attach]

vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 12:30

[quote]Reply to vijovijo

1. 27C010 is not DIP28! only 32PINs IC

address 800 error ------> A11 pin is ...
[size=2][color=#999999]admin Posted at 2022-8-18 11:48[/color] [url=http://forums.xgecu.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2234&ptid=724][img]http://forums.xgecu.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size] [/quote]
Thanks for your reply, I'll check again and inform back to you.

About the 27c010 DIP28, I got that from the original AMD datasheet, but it's ok, I have the PLCC32 version.

[attach]1396[/attach]

Thank you and best regards,

Vijo

vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 12:38

[quote]As a user:       The 'trick' to use the PLCC32 --> DIP28, is that you need to select the DI ...
[size=2][color=#999999]Albano.Matos 发表于 2022-8-18 11:38[/color] [url=http://forums.xgecu.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2233&ptid=724][img]http://forums.xgecu.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size][/quote]
Could be a bad pin, but is not supposed to let you know a pin is bad? I thought that was part of the features, I have pin check selected. Anyway I ordered a new adapter, arrives Saturday. Thanks.

vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 14:08

[quote]回复  vijovijo

1. 27C010 is not DIP28!  only 32PIns IC

address 800   error ------> A11 pin is ...
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Problem solved with AM29F010B, problem was the adapter, it was shorting some pins from the PLCC32 socket to the DIP32 pins, too near.

Thank you very much, I finally upgraded the software in my instrument.

Best regards, Vijo

Albano.Matos 发表于 2022-8-18 15:38

[quote]Problem solved with AM29F010B, problem was the adapter, it was shorting some pins from the PLCC32  ...
[size=2][color=#999999]vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 14:08[/color] [url=http://forums.xgecu.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2237&ptid=724][img]http://forums.xgecu.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size][/quote]


   As A User: Happy for you :).Some shops in internet do not test adapters, or do not test adapters correctly, even if selling legitimate
programmers. They seem like the originals....that's why i now bought only from Xgecu store if possible,
it's a bit more expensive but, many times, offer a better brand socket. With PLCCxx socket's used frequently,
only use ZIF made adapters like the one I've posted here, and much better to handle medium/large quantity
work.

vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 15:48

[quote]Problem solved with AM29F010B, problem was the adapter, it was shorting some pins from the PLCC32  ...
[size=2][color=#999999]vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 14:08[/color] [url=http://forums.xgecu.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2237&ptid=724][img]http://forums.xgecu.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size][/quote]

Also tested SST39SF010A, working good, PLCC32 to DIP32 adapter fixed.
Thanks for the fast responce.

vijovijo 发表于 2022-8-18 16:03

[quote]As A User: Happy for you .Some shops in internet do not test adapters, or do not test ada ...
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Thanks.
Here is the adapter I purchased and I don't recommend:
[attach]1397[/attach]

The PLCC socket is too near the DIP pins and shorted. Junk.

Thanks to all for the help.

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